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		<title>By: bob bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.dustinweber.com/main-page/the-best-php-framework-is-symfony-really-it/comment-page-2/#comment-1068</link>
		<dc:creator>bob bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>youall seem very in the know, so I have a question.  I have to write a web page with different user acounts and a database.  I have only taken a java class in my life.  what &quot;language&quot; or &quot;framework&quot; will be the easiest to learn and use for the complete beginner?  I know nothing about servers, databases, or even writing scripts of any kind.  sorry for filling the thread with off topic things, but thank you for your time and understanding</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>youall seem very in the know, so I have a question.  I have to write a web page with different user acounts and a database.  I have only taken a java class in my life.  what &#8220;language&#8221; or &#8220;framework&#8221; will be the easiest to learn and use for the complete beginner?  I know nothing about servers, databases, or even writing scripts of any kind.  sorry for filling the thread with off topic things, but thank you for your time and understanding</p>
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		<title>By: John Fro</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Fro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone try Dolphin?  How about Nitrogen?  The problem with most frameworks is the code bloat and the lack of IDE RAD tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone try Dolphin?  How about Nitrogen?  The problem with most frameworks is the code bloat and the lack of IDE RAD tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Ackmed Fedahalluzin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ackmed Fedahalluzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 11:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which framework is best for Muslims to use? I want framework that automatic shut down site 5 time a day for prayer services. You have framework like that for me? Also any framework where all the documents and instruction written in Arabic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which framework is best for Muslims to use? I want framework that automatic shut down site 5 time a day for prayer services. You have framework like that for me? Also any framework where all the documents and instruction written in Arabic?</p>
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		<title>By: rashthedude</title>
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		<dc:creator>rashthedude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 07:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, let me re-ignite the flame wars...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha, let me re-ignite the flame wars&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Rodrigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodrigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 19:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Codeigniter ! great framework! ,versatile, easy to learn, excellent documentation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Codeigniter ! great framework! ,versatile, easy to learn, excellent documentation!</p>
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		<title>By: 404</title>
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		<dc:creator>404</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 00:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Symfony is shit and yml sucks bollocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Symfony is shit and yml sucks bollocks.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 06:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only frameworks need a wuss. Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only frameworks need a wuss. Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Christof Coetzee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christof Coetzee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really not that impressed with the remarks here, it borders on real stupidity, clearly you guys haven&#039;t work with Zend Framework on an enterprise level.
In my opinion Zend Framework is state-of-the-art and comparing it to any other PHP framework is just mockery.
Just ironic and sad that large corporations endorses ZF and other small mediocre programmers will shoot it down, perhaps they don&#039;t have what it takes to grasp high level coding practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really not that impressed with the remarks here, it borders on real stupidity, clearly you guys haven&#8217;t work with Zend Framework on an enterprise level.<br />
In my opinion Zend Framework is state-of-the-art and comparing it to any other PHP framework is just mockery.<br />
Just ironic and sad that large corporations endorses ZF and other small mediocre programmers will shoot it down, perhaps they don&#8217;t have what it takes to grasp high level coding practices.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest with you guys I don&#039;t need any framework to work on my projects or to develop in PHP but the times changed and the programming style too. 
Nobody work anymore from ground and a framework help you go forward and don&#039;t reinvent the wheel. 
On top of that it&#039;s much harder nowadays to find a good job without knowing a framework at least. Maybe two.

Good luck everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest with you guys I don&#8217;t need any framework to work on my projects or to develop in PHP but the times changed and the programming style too.<br />
Nobody work anymore from ground and a framework help you go forward and don&#8217;t reinvent the wheel.<br />
On top of that it&#8217;s much harder nowadays to find a good job without knowing a framework at least. Maybe two.</p>
<p>Good luck everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Parm Lassert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parm Lassert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;icky feeling&quot;, &quot;appears to be&quot;,&quot;It seems like&quot;, &quot;doesn’t feel quite right&quot;

Finally you say, &quot;There are lot’s of specific reasons I feel this way&quot; and then provide no specifics. 

What a useless, unresearched article. No programmer worth his salt would describe things in such a hazy, almost uncommunicative manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;icky feeling&#8221;, &#8220;appears to be&#8221;,&#8221;It seems like&#8221;, &#8220;doesn’t feel quite right&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally you say, &#8220;There are lot’s of specific reasons I feel this way&#8221; and then provide no specifics. </p>
<p>What a useless, unresearched article. No programmer worth his salt would describe things in such a hazy, almost uncommunicative manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can use ZF as a true mvc framework but think twice before starting a small or medium size project with it especially when you are the only developer. It is very good and flexible as a library of loosely coupled classes and can be used with or without mvc-based paradigm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can use ZF as a true mvc framework but think twice before starting a small or medium size project with it especially when you are the only developer. It is very good and flexible as a library of loosely coupled classes and can be used with or without mvc-based paradigm.</p>
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		<title>By: casa</title>
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		<dc:creator>casa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Links at the end of the article are broken...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Links at the end of the article are broken&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The writer of post #5 is a douche.  It was definitely an attempt at a &quot;look how awesome I am&quot; post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The writer of post #5 is a douche.  It was definitely an attempt at a &#8220;look how awesome I am&#8221; post.</p>
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		<title>By: MiamiWebDesign</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiamiWebDesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been developing in PHP for quite some time now and never have had the need for a framework. Now, I have a few projects that require me to scale up a bit from my current workflow and been reading about PHP frameworks lately. 

With all the great posts here, I&#039;m still not sure what&#039;s the best one, since there are many different opinions and feelings. I&#039;m going to concentrate on Symfony, CakePHP and CodeIgniter to test them out. If you have a chance, please make a table view with the frameworks on the article to compare them side by side and clearly see the differences.

Thank your for your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been developing in PHP for quite some time now and never have had the need for a framework. Now, I have a few projects that require me to scale up a bit from my current workflow and been reading about PHP frameworks lately. </p>
<p>With all the great posts here, I&#8217;m still not sure what&#8217;s the best one, since there are many different opinions and feelings. I&#8217;m going to concentrate on Symfony, CakePHP and CodeIgniter to test them out. If you have a chance, please make a table view with the frameworks on the article to compare them side by side and clearly see the differences.</p>
<p>Thank your for your post.</p>
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		<title>By: lazarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>lazarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 01:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about RadPhp(Delphi for PHP)?
The fastest way to build PHP applications.
RadPHP is the only visual Rapid Application Development (RAD) environment for PHP.

Release August 10 2010 by Borland/Embarcadero


How can you compare those frameworkS the radphp?
Since radphp has all that features.
;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about RadPhp(Delphi for PHP)?<br />
The fastest way to build PHP applications.<br />
RadPHP is the only visual Rapid Application Development (RAD) environment for PHP.</p>
<p>Release August 10 2010 by Borland/Embarcadero</p>
<p>How can you compare those frameworkS the radphp?<br />
Since radphp has all that features.<br />
 <img src='http://www.dustinweber.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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