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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@homeless - a bit of respect would go down nicely here - dont forget you are reading some else&#039;s blog and of course their subjective opinon. I dont know why people think they a have a right to force people to their opinion?

It is funny comming from a C &#124; C++ background (1994) because all the same arguments were used back then!

I remember people laughing that we used VCL (Borland C++ Builder) over MFC (Visual Studio) - what a happend? MS head hunted the original designer of VCL (delphi) and he designed .NET!

You dont hear that many people banging on about MFC anymore! If you do, just tell them composition &#124; aggregation beats (purely) inheritance.

Dustin - if you read my last comment from the Symphony posting..

&quot;Phew, looks like the Cake stuff over the week end was okay then!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@homeless &#8211; a bit of respect would go down nicely here &#8211; dont forget you are reading some else&#8217;s blog and of course their subjective opinon. I dont know why people think they a have a right to force people to their opinion?</p>
<p>It is funny comming from a C | C++ background (1994) because all the same arguments were used back then!</p>
<p>I remember people laughing that we used VCL (Borland C++ Builder) over MFC (Visual Studio) &#8211; what a happend? MS head hunted the original designer of VCL (delphi) and he designed .NET!</p>
<p>You dont hear that many people banging on about MFC anymore! If you do, just tell them composition | aggregation beats (purely) inheritance.</p>
<p>Dustin &#8211; if you read my last comment from the Symphony posting..</p>
<p>&#8220;Phew, looks like the Cake stuff over the week end was okay then!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: abhishek</title>
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		<dc:creator>abhishek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice tutorial dude</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice tutorial dude</p>
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		<title>By: Marlon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homeless,
If you start taking ratio&#039;s into consideration, flies vs humans, then your little hissy fit does not make sense any more, does it?

I have settled on CakePHP coming from CodeIgniter, I haven&#039;t tried anything else, and I don&#039;t think I will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homeless,<br />
If you start taking ratio&#8217;s into consideration, flies vs humans, then your little hissy fit does not make sense any more, does it?</p>
<p>I have settled on CakePHP coming from CodeIgniter, I haven&#8217;t tried anything else, and I don&#8217;t think I will.</p>
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		<title>By: martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I read following link.
http://cookphp.blogspot.com/2009/09/cakephp-for-beginners.html

I think I am getting right but it is giving me warning that tmp directory is now writable. Can anyone help me please</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I read following link.<br />
<a href="http://cookphp.blogspot.com/2009/09/cakephp-for-beginners.html" rel="nofollow">http://cookphp.blogspot.com/2009/09/cakephp-for-beginners.html</a></p>
<p>I think I am getting right but it is giving me warning that tmp directory is now writable. Can anyone help me please</p>
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		<title>By: johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE PLEASE comment on Smarty...

I have had some developers build my site using this and I don&#039;t know whether I wasted a tonne of money... I am scared and don&#039;t know whether I should have done more research on Cake, Symfony.........

DAZED AND CONFUSED!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE PLEASE comment on Smarty&#8230;</p>
<p>I have had some developers build my site using this and I don&#8217;t know whether I wasted a tonne of money&#8230; I am scared and don&#8217;t know whether I should have done more research on Cake, Symfony&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>DAZED AND CONFUSED!</p>
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		<title>By: Homeless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry ...


So 40 million of flies eat shit … they must not be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8230;</p>
<p>So 40 million of flies eat shit … they must not be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Homeless</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;CodeIgniter has about 545,000 results.
&gt;CakePHP has about 3,980,000 results.

Uhmm, do you like stats ?

So 40 million of flies eat ship ... they must not be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;CodeIgniter has about 545,000 results.<br />
&gt;CakePHP has about 3,980,000 results.</p>
<p>Uhmm, do you like stats ?</p>
<p>So 40 million of flies eat ship &#8230; they must not be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Atea Webdevelopment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atea Webdevelopment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very helpfull, thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very helpfull, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Hultin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan Hultin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dustin. Thanks for the tips, I&#039;ve just started, well I have yet to get that far into things, with cakePHP, truth be told i find it quite a mind twister to get my headaroung, might be due to me being new to PHP (more of a .net guy originaly) but i&#039;d guess it is due to it being so diffrent from anything else i&#039;ve worked with previously.

I would, if you don&#039;t mind, love a few real tutorials so to speak, ergo step by step instructions, as i find that cakephp&#039;s offical documentation is kind of messy and insufficent on HOW to get started and what goes where. 

Regards, Johan Hultin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dustin. Thanks for the tips, I&#8217;ve just started, well I have yet to get that far into things, with cakePHP, truth be told i find it quite a mind twister to get my headaroung, might be due to me being new to PHP (more of a .net guy originaly) but i&#8217;d guess it is due to it being so diffrent from anything else i&#8217;ve worked with previously.</p>
<p>I would, if you don&#8217;t mind, love a few real tutorials so to speak, ergo step by step instructions, as i find that cakephp&#8217;s offical documentation is kind of messy and insufficent on HOW to get started and what goes where. </p>
<p>Regards, Johan Hultin</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-04-04 on studiowhiz.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-04-04 on studiowhiz.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Getting Started With CakePHP: No Frustration Permitted! &#124; The Weber Report Great collection of links for those starting out with Cake PHP (tags: cakephp php tutorial framework programming webdev howto learning reference mvc) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Getting Started With CakePHP: No Frustration Permitted! | The Weber Report Great collection of links for those starting out with Cake PHP (tags: cakephp php tutorial framework programming webdev howto learning reference mvc) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: wil</title>
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		<dc:creator>wil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried cake before but I did not like the way code was generated when scaffolding. I think Symfony approach is neater. Needless to say I have been now using Symfony for quite some long and I am very happy with it.  
Now I am planning to migrate to version 1.2 which uses Doctrine as a ORM (much more powerful than Propel, IMHO)  and explodes most of the latest features of PHP in regards with OOP. 
Anyway, I think it is hard to determine which one is the best since both are great and are changing and new features are being added constantly, so I say, good for you if cake fulfills your expectations and good for me because, I have found a greay MVC PHP framework. Either ways, MVC concept rocks!  Have fun guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried cake before but I did not like the way code was generated when scaffolding. I think Symfony approach is neater. Needless to say I have been now using Symfony for quite some long and I am very happy with it.<br />
Now I am planning to migrate to version 1.2 which uses Doctrine as a ORM (much more powerful than Propel, IMHO)  and explodes most of the latest features of PHP in regards with OOP.<br />
Anyway, I think it is hard to determine which one is the best since both are great and are changing and new features are being added constantly, so I say, good for you if cake fulfills your expectations and good for me because, I have found a greay MVC PHP framework. Either ways, MVC concept rocks!  Have fun guys!</p>
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		<title>By: Genu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ aaryan
zend framework doesn&#039;t really have its own IDE. Zend studio is the IDE, and zend framework is just another product of zend.

Also, the &quot;CleanUpFields&quot; function mentioned earliler was removed from cakePHP 1.2 (I believe)

I would suggest going through the IBM CakePHP tutorial to start with. It has about 5 or 6 parts to it, with 7 pages each. It covers very useful information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ aaryan<br />
zend framework doesn&#8217;t really have its own IDE. Zend studio is the IDE, and zend framework is just another product of zend.</p>
<p>Also, the &#8220;CleanUpFields&#8221; function mentioned earliler was removed from cakePHP 1.2 (I believe)</p>
<p>I would suggest going through the IBM CakePHP tutorial to start with. It has about 5 or 6 parts to it, with 7 pages each. It covers very useful information.</p>
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		<title>By: aaryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, this aaryan, i want to know which framework is better to learn, i got zend IDE is good, and i am learning Cakephp,  i am confused, zend has framework its own and IDE, then why should i use Cakephp, it is little bit confusing while using...

Will u plz suggest me any site which gives more help on the basics of baking cake...

Advance thanks for your articles.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, this aaryan, i want to know which framework is better to learn, i got zend IDE is good, and i am learning Cakephp,  i am confused, zend has framework its own and IDE, then why should i use Cakephp, it is little bit confusing while using&#8230;</p>
<p>Will u plz suggest me any site which gives more help on the basics of baking cake&#8230;</p>
<p>Advance thanks for your articles&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Weber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EVERYONE

This post is very old at this point.  CakePHP has changed immensely since I wrote this article and things have gotten much much better.  I would recommend you learn version 1.2 (it is in RC2) and you&#039;ll get to learn the best php framework by far.

Thanks,

Dustin Weber</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVERYONE</p>
<p>This post is very old at this point.  CakePHP has changed immensely since I wrote this article and things have gotten much much better.  I would recommend you learn version 1.2 (it is in RC2) and you&#8217;ll get to learn the best php framework by far.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Dustin Weber</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I am using easyphp (apache 1.3, php 4.3.1), I tried installing cakephp many time but could not. 
There are many articles but none provides detailed instructions on how to install cakephp and how to test/check that it has been installed properly.
Second problem, developers usually work on more than 1 applications at a time, how to setup cakephp once and use it with all applications?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I am using easyphp (apache 1.3, php 4.3.1), I tried installing cakephp many time but could not.<br />
There are many articles but none provides detailed instructions on how to install cakephp and how to test/check that it has been installed properly.<br />
Second problem, developers usually work on more than 1 applications at a time, how to setup cakephp once and use it with all applications?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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